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Yes, I still would say he's not chubby here but average. By virtue that he *still* has noticeably more defined pecs than the original sprite you have. The clothing doesn't actually make it apparent, because it still shows that he lacks in enough fat for there to be noticeable definition with his pecs. They are far more shapely than both your original sprite as well as the original Morenatsu sprite. 

Even with Japan having "different standards for 'fat'," I'd say that makes it even worse in this case by virtue that 1) Kono isn't human (so the scales would already be different) 2) even on BMI, at worse, he's *barely* overweight based on his original stats (like, we're talking lose 5-6 pounds levels). But in the original, he was noticeably plumper. His face is more rounded, and he doesn't have cut pecs. Your original sprite has far less defined biceps and he's wider and smaller, so... Yeah, I'd say that he barely counts as chubby here. Going even further, he's not "quite fat" he's just not skinny. 

IE, now, your Kono would be slightly overweight because he doesn't eat cleanly. Not because he's obviously sedentary. 

Sure, it's more so because of how the menu sizes and general resolution base choices of Ren'py that's kind of the issue here. IE, Taller sprites are harder to do because you seem to have less height in general to work with than the original Morenatsu engine (I forget what they used). 

I'm aware. That's the reason I was trying to give feedback ahead of time so it's easier to notice from a "non-dev" perspective. I figured feedback would be useful in general. 

It's not really chubby. He's just kinda averagish in body type. 



OG sprite is a bit pudgier. And the revamped one takes it to the point where I wouldn't say he's chubby anymore. 

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I can absolutely understand that, but please hear me, it's not just a petty complaint (as you can see by my the dislikes on my opinion haha), but rather something that is a bit of a criticism to the art as well. The biggest issue with the "old" sprites was that there was a bit of inconsistency with the heights like Shun being small, but he's absolutely tiny in comparison to Tatsuki, and some people felt that there were *too* many liberties taken with the characters IE, some feel that Torahiko was too skinny-- which is a mileage may vary sort of thing, but that's a refinement that can happen over time. The sprites needed to be refined as it was clear that the artist was getting the feel for the style that they wanted. 

Now, the height inconsistency is going to be even more apparent because of how big they are in this version versus the original: take a look at this: Tora is a little more than half of the screen here, and almost a head shorter than Tatsuki. Now let's compare them here

Torahiko is taller now (which he needed to be as the original Torahiko was way too small in comparison), but now there's really no room left to make Tatsuki a head taller than Torahiko , much less any adults that'd be taller than Tatsuki, like his father. Tora is still less compact in build than he originally was, but he now loses the swimmer's build he had, so he feels like some sort of strange compromise between the two. People like Konosuke just straight up lost weight: 


"chubby" doesn't even come to mind anymore-- versus the original ones seemed to remember that. It's not really so much that I "hate" the new ones, but prefer the old ones, because the inconsistencies feel even more distracting at this point since now they're trying to mimic the old Gamma style, but still don't *quite* look like it while still keeping the issues that some of the original ones had, and somehow bringing in new ones with the shift.  

Bear in mind, this was never meant to be some sort of knock towards a shift, but rather a "I prefer the older ones because they seem less problematic." I hope that helps with what I was saying earlier. 

Gonna have to agree with this. The new sprites, for what they were, was a bit of a change, but I think this was something that gave them a bit more identity in the end of the day, making them less tied down to the original in that regard. It's a shame to see that artist's work go to waste. 

The new ones feel like fanart, and not nearly as refined as the originals.